My natural state is naked. I wear clothes because I am required to in order to interact with a society that is unwilling to accept wearing nothing as a legitimate clothing choice. I accept that clothing serves a purpose against the cooler temperatures and that there is no point in being uncomfortably cold just to stubbornly stand by one of the principles of naturism. Naturists are practical, not foolish.
This is a very well-written description of the situation at nude beaches. In a way, swimsuit enforcement is not very democratic. People are prevented to go nude in municipal places but clothed people are not prevented from going to nude beaches.
In America, a speedo is considered a "risque" swimsuit. I was once escorted out of the public swimming pool because my speedo was deemed "too transparent". Of course, the local idiots could not find a better reason, there was nothing "transparent".
People come with all kinds of preconceptions bestowed upon them by family, churches, and society. Therefore they come in a variety of behavior. The problem starts when they fall outside of the bell curve. The people inside the bell curve try to discriminate against the ones outside. And because every action elicits a reaction of equal force but in an opposing direction, battles are needlessly started.
An example is a gay movement. About 3% of the population is openly gay, but because they were discriminated against for a long time the pent-up resentment boiled out into militant behavior. But the success the 3% achieved in pushing acceptance to the majority is an unhealthy result. Can you recall anything, a movie, a TV program, or a job application, where there are not gay people represented? One would think that half of the population is gay.
99% of people do not care how we get our sexual needs satisfied. They think about their needs.
The nudity on nude beaches necessarily manifests sexually in the same way as in any place where people gather, churches, or tennis clubs. Sex is our life's driving force and because of nature, there are basic differences between males and females. Male has about 525 billion sperm cells in life and about 1 billion are used every month. Women start with only 2 million egg cells, but only about 450 ever mature and are available for reproduction during ovulation.
Evolution, therefore, compels males to spread the seeds wide and far, women are compelled to be very selective, choose males that can wield the biggest club, and bring home the largest saber-toothed tiger to feed the family with. This difference in sex drive and the fact that most males are stronger than females put females at a disadvantage that lasts in many countries to this day. Different societies deal with needed protection for females in different, sometimes outright bizarre ways, but there is no solution. We will never resolve the differences we evolved with and no matter how many laws are enacted, none can negate evolution.
As a result, female nudity acquired commercial value. While it is legal to be topless in most of the civilized world, we do not see topless women in most of the world, where it is practiced mostly by ladies past their prime. Again, evolution made us celebrate the youth.
Dr. Ruth proposed in one of her sexual lectures that everyone past 50 should start having some homosexual experiences. For a very simple reason. To be sexually satisfied is the most important element of our lives. As important as intake of food, water, and air. It is inevitable that one of the sexual partners will depart. Divorce, abandonment, death, there are a million reasons. To replace the sexual partner with a same-sex one takes 5 min on the internet. We may never ever till we die replace an opposite-sex partner.
Because of the sex drive, there are males that seek sexual relief at the beaches. Some nudists are surely also swingers and some swingers are also nudists, but we cannot generalize. I find the name Meerkats very endeavoring for those voyeurs.
Unfortunately because of the meerkats, my wife is uncomfortable going to open nude beaches. For this reason, the population-controlled nudist parks are a lot more inviting also safe in contrast to the beach
Thanks for your comments. Sorry for the late reply, but I have been travelling overseas, and have had a nightmare return flight resulting in several days' delay.
I am interested that the US considers the speedo risqué, as it is the common attire of swimming athletes and very common in other parts of the world. I understand in Australia they are called budgie smugglers.
You are right about people outside the bell curve, and I fear naturists definitely fall into this category.
While I was in the Uk and Europe, It was noticeable how many women, of all ages, were choosing not to wear a bra, and toplessness at beaches was not uncommon. As a step toward reclaiming their rights to dress how they are comfortable rather than how society says they must dress to conform, it was encouraging. I am not sure how prevalent this is in the US, but female top freedom seems to have more equality in Europe.
I struggle with the dichotomy of female nudity used to sell products and yet considered dirty by society.
I am not sure evolution made us celebrate the youth, I fear it may be more about marketing and advertising that has swayed society's attitudes. I am sure there is an evolutionary desire to find an attractive mate, and younger people are often more attractive, but as we age, I feel our tastes become less focussed on reproduction and more about living a satisfying and fulfilled life.
Yes males seeking sexual relief at the beaches are often driven by primal urges rather than reasoned thought. Someone once said to me that when a man has an erection, all he can think about is how to use it to get rid of the erection. Single males or men in sexually empty relationships often behave in ways that discourage women from enjoying public spaces naturally.
I am sorry that they have put your wife off going to nude beaches.
Thank you for your letter. You do not need to apologize, you are not obligated to respond to anything someone writes.
Because you did comment I will tell you something about me and also what I am looking for.
I am often labeled a dirty old man and I cannot say that it bothers me. I am Liberteen, someone not having religious, societal, political, or sexual handicaps. I am male, I see male sexuality as orgasms. That has nothing in common with family values, loves etc etc. I love the most significant event in the world, the Burning Man. I try to go "home" to the playa in the harsh Nevada desert about every 3 years. While there is anything one can possibly desire, I go for sex and nudity, with no apology.
My wife is an import from Cannibal land. South Philippines, half of my age. We have an open relationship. My human evolution (sexual and social) started in 1969 at the Woodstock festival in NY state. From that time I grew more and more sexually open and uninhibited. I do not label myself, I am not a nudist, and I simply do not wear clothes unless I have to. My very definite sexual preference is women, but I enjoy both men and women. If a lady gives you a head, she is doing it because she wants to please you. Men are doing it because he loves it. Big difference.
America has very good people, but soooo stupid, even somewhat retarded. Speedo is frowned upon and to find it in a store is extremely hard. Many places and Canada do not have criminal consequences for women going topless, but no one does because of the commercial value of bare breasts.
Every large city has several fabulous sex clubs, Toronto has 4, the one we like most charges $100/per couple so we do not visit often. The cheaper clubs may charge $40, plus most if not all require some membership to be in the category of "private" club. The typical cost is $40/year.
I love to travel, never been to NZ but it is on my list. I do try to correspond with people around the world to make sure that I have a friend when I arrive, I can maintain a normal sex life and have the benefits of the guide. You must know a lot of people, please, feel free to introduce me.
I am also looking for a lady that would like to travel to Canada/USA. She would have free room and board, possibly a swingers cruise, and once a week we would visit some swingers club somewhere.
I do have AANR and CANR memberships and I do know how to behave in a "family-oriented" nudist club. We do camp there while traveling, but in most nudist clubs you find swingers keeping it discreet.
If you know a lady that would love adventure in the Americas we would both appreciate an introduction.
Well, your observations are correct and I love reading your dissertations.
For some reason when I click reply it does not go through
Hello Bob
Thank you for your letter. You do not need to apologize, you are not obligated to respond to anything someone writes.
Because you did comment I will tell you something about me and also what I am looking for.
I am often labeled a dirty old man and I cannot say that it bothers me. I am Liberteen, someone not having religious, societal, political, or sexual handicaps. I am male, I see male sexuality as orgasms. That has nothing in common with family values, loves etc etc. I love the most significant event in the world, the Burning Man. I try to go "home" to the playa in the harsh Nevada desert about every 3 years. While there is anything one can possibly desire, I go for sex and nudity, with no apology.
My wife is an import from Cannibal land. South Philippines, half of my age. We have an open relationship. My human evolution (sexual and social) started in 1969 at the Woodstock festival in NY state. From that time I grew more and more sexually open and uninhibited. I do not label myself, I am not a nudist, and I simply do not wear clothes unless I have to. My very definite sexual preference is women, but I enjoy both men and women. If a lady gives you a head, she is doing it because she wants to please you. Men are doing it because he loves it. Big difference.
America has very good people, but soooo stupid, even somewhat retarded. Speedo is frowned upon and to find it in a store is extremely hard. Many places and Canada do not have criminal consequences for women going topless, but no one does because of the commercial value of bare breasts.
Every large city has several fabulous sex clubs, Toronto has 4, the one we like most charges $100/per couple so we do not visit often. The cheaper clubs may charge $40, plus most if not all require some membership to be in the category of "private" club. The typical cost is $40/year.
I love to travel, never been to NZ but it is on my list. I do try to correspond with people around the world to make sure that I have a friend when I arrive, I can maintain a normal sex life and have the benefits of the guide. You must know a lot of people, please, feel free to introduce me.
I am also looking for a lady that would like to travel to Canada/USA. She would have free room and board, possibly a swingers cruise, and once a week we would visit some swingers club somewhere.
I do have AANR and CANR memberships and I do know how to behave in a "family-oriented" nudist club. We do camp there while traveling, but in most nudist clubs you find swingers keeping it discreet.
If you know a lady that would love adventure in the Americas we would both appreciate an introduction.
Well, your observations are correct and I love reading your dissertations.
Consider my paradigm adjusted - I am now a naked person who chooses to wear clothes when I have to, not a clothed person who chooses to get naked when I want to. Love it!!
Quite an eye opener for me......love your comparison
This is a very well-written description of the situation at nude beaches. In a way, swimsuit enforcement is not very democratic. People are prevented to go nude in municipal places but clothed people are not prevented from going to nude beaches.
In America, a speedo is considered a "risque" swimsuit. I was once escorted out of the public swimming pool because my speedo was deemed "too transparent". Of course, the local idiots could not find a better reason, there was nothing "transparent".
People come with all kinds of preconceptions bestowed upon them by family, churches, and society. Therefore they come in a variety of behavior. The problem starts when they fall outside of the bell curve. The people inside the bell curve try to discriminate against the ones outside. And because every action elicits a reaction of equal force but in an opposing direction, battles are needlessly started.
An example is a gay movement. About 3% of the population is openly gay, but because they were discriminated against for a long time the pent-up resentment boiled out into militant behavior. But the success the 3% achieved in pushing acceptance to the majority is an unhealthy result. Can you recall anything, a movie, a TV program, or a job application, where there are not gay people represented? One would think that half of the population is gay.
99% of people do not care how we get our sexual needs satisfied. They think about their needs.
The nudity on nude beaches necessarily manifests sexually in the same way as in any place where people gather, churches, or tennis clubs. Sex is our life's driving force and because of nature, there are basic differences between males and females. Male has about 525 billion sperm cells in life and about 1 billion are used every month. Women start with only 2 million egg cells, but only about 450 ever mature and are available for reproduction during ovulation.
Evolution, therefore, compels males to spread the seeds wide and far, women are compelled to be very selective, choose males that can wield the biggest club, and bring home the largest saber-toothed tiger to feed the family with. This difference in sex drive and the fact that most males are stronger than females put females at a disadvantage that lasts in many countries to this day. Different societies deal with needed protection for females in different, sometimes outright bizarre ways, but there is no solution. We will never resolve the differences we evolved with and no matter how many laws are enacted, none can negate evolution.
As a result, female nudity acquired commercial value. While it is legal to be topless in most of the civilized world, we do not see topless women in most of the world, where it is practiced mostly by ladies past their prime. Again, evolution made us celebrate the youth.
Dr. Ruth proposed in one of her sexual lectures that everyone past 50 should start having some homosexual experiences. For a very simple reason. To be sexually satisfied is the most important element of our lives. As important as intake of food, water, and air. It is inevitable that one of the sexual partners will depart. Divorce, abandonment, death, there are a million reasons. To replace the sexual partner with a same-sex one takes 5 min on the internet. We may never ever till we die replace an opposite-sex partner.
Because of the sex drive, there are males that seek sexual relief at the beaches. Some nudists are surely also swingers and some swingers are also nudists, but we cannot generalize. I find the name Meerkats very endeavoring for those voyeurs.
Unfortunately because of the meerkats, my wife is uncomfortable going to open nude beaches. For this reason, the population-controlled nudist parks are a lot more inviting also safe in contrast to the beach
Thanks for your comments. Sorry for the late reply, but I have been travelling overseas, and have had a nightmare return flight resulting in several days' delay.
I am interested that the US considers the speedo risqué, as it is the common attire of swimming athletes and very common in other parts of the world. I understand in Australia they are called budgie smugglers.
You are right about people outside the bell curve, and I fear naturists definitely fall into this category.
While I was in the Uk and Europe, It was noticeable how many women, of all ages, were choosing not to wear a bra, and toplessness at beaches was not uncommon. As a step toward reclaiming their rights to dress how they are comfortable rather than how society says they must dress to conform, it was encouraging. I am not sure how prevalent this is in the US, but female top freedom seems to have more equality in Europe.
I struggle with the dichotomy of female nudity used to sell products and yet considered dirty by society.
I am not sure evolution made us celebrate the youth, I fear it may be more about marketing and advertising that has swayed society's attitudes. I am sure there is an evolutionary desire to find an attractive mate, and younger people are often more attractive, but as we age, I feel our tastes become less focussed on reproduction and more about living a satisfying and fulfilled life.
Yes males seeking sexual relief at the beaches are often driven by primal urges rather than reasoned thought. Someone once said to me that when a man has an erection, all he can think about is how to use it to get rid of the erection. Single males or men in sexually empty relationships often behave in ways that discourage women from enjoying public spaces naturally.
I am sorry that they have put your wife off going to nude beaches.
Hello Bob
Thank you for your letter. You do not need to apologize, you are not obligated to respond to anything someone writes.
Because you did comment I will tell you something about me and also what I am looking for.
I am often labeled a dirty old man and I cannot say that it bothers me. I am Liberteen, someone not having religious, societal, political, or sexual handicaps. I am male, I see male sexuality as orgasms. That has nothing in common with family values, loves etc etc. I love the most significant event in the world, the Burning Man. I try to go "home" to the playa in the harsh Nevada desert about every 3 years. While there is anything one can possibly desire, I go for sex and nudity, with no apology.
My wife is an import from Cannibal land. South Philippines, half of my age. We have an open relationship. My human evolution (sexual and social) started in 1969 at the Woodstock festival in NY state. From that time I grew more and more sexually open and uninhibited. I do not label myself, I am not a nudist, and I simply do not wear clothes unless I have to. My very definite sexual preference is women, but I enjoy both men and women. If a lady gives you a head, she is doing it because she wants to please you. Men are doing it because he loves it. Big difference.
America has very good people, but soooo stupid, even somewhat retarded. Speedo is frowned upon and to find it in a store is extremely hard. Many places and Canada do not have criminal consequences for women going topless, but no one does because of the commercial value of bare breasts.
Every large city has several fabulous sex clubs, Toronto has 4, the one we like most charges $100/per couple so we do not visit often. The cheaper clubs may charge $40, plus most if not all require some membership to be in the category of "private" club. The typical cost is $40/year.
I love to travel, never been to NZ but it is on my list. I do try to correspond with people around the world to make sure that I have a friend when I arrive, I can maintain a normal sex life and have the benefits of the guide. You must know a lot of people, please, feel free to introduce me.
My sexual email is <realjoydeal@gmail.com>
I am also looking for a lady that would like to travel to Canada/USA. She would have free room and board, possibly a swingers cruise, and once a week we would visit some swingers club somewhere.
I do have AANR and CANR memberships and I do know how to behave in a "family-oriented" nudist club. We do camp there while traveling, but in most nudist clubs you find swingers keeping it discreet.
If you know a lady that would love adventure in the Americas we would both appreciate an introduction.
Well, your observations are correct and I love reading your dissertations.
All the best, Jerry Kubias
For some reason when I click reply it does not go through
Hello Bob
Thank you for your letter. You do not need to apologize, you are not obligated to respond to anything someone writes.
Because you did comment I will tell you something about me and also what I am looking for.
I am often labeled a dirty old man and I cannot say that it bothers me. I am Liberteen, someone not having religious, societal, political, or sexual handicaps. I am male, I see male sexuality as orgasms. That has nothing in common with family values, loves etc etc. I love the most significant event in the world, the Burning Man. I try to go "home" to the playa in the harsh Nevada desert about every 3 years. While there is anything one can possibly desire, I go for sex and nudity, with no apology.
My wife is an import from Cannibal land. South Philippines, half of my age. We have an open relationship. My human evolution (sexual and social) started in 1969 at the Woodstock festival in NY state. From that time I grew more and more sexually open and uninhibited. I do not label myself, I am not a nudist, and I simply do not wear clothes unless I have to. My very definite sexual preference is women, but I enjoy both men and women. If a lady gives you a head, she is doing it because she wants to please you. Men are doing it because he loves it. Big difference.
America has very good people, but soooo stupid, even somewhat retarded. Speedo is frowned upon and to find it in a store is extremely hard. Many places and Canada do not have criminal consequences for women going topless, but no one does because of the commercial value of bare breasts.
Every large city has several fabulous sex clubs, Toronto has 4, the one we like most charges $100/per couple so we do not visit often. The cheaper clubs may charge $40, plus most if not all require some membership to be in the category of "private" club. The typical cost is $40/year.
I love to travel, never been to NZ but it is on my list. I do try to correspond with people around the world to make sure that I have a friend when I arrive, I can maintain a normal sex life and have the benefits of the guide. You must know a lot of people, please, feel free to introduce me.
My sexual email is <realjoydeal@gmail.com>
I am also looking for a lady that would like to travel to Canada/USA. She would have free room and board, possibly a swingers cruise, and once a week we would visit some swingers club somewhere.
I do have AANR and CANR memberships and I do know how to behave in a "family-oriented" nudist club. We do camp there while traveling, but in most nudist clubs you find swingers keeping it discreet.
If you know a lady that would love adventure in the Americas we would both appreciate an introduction.
Well, your observations are correct and I love reading your dissertations.
All the best, Jerry Kubias
Consider my paradigm adjusted - I am now a naked person who chooses to wear clothes when I have to, not a clothed person who chooses to get naked when I want to. Love it!!
I am so pleased to have contributed to your shift in perspective.