Further to my comment on 5th May - I have received a reply from Channel 4 UK, as follows ;
" Thank you for your email in regards to streaming on Channel 4..
We appreciate you taking the time to contact us with your query. We must advise, as Channel 4 is a UK broadcaster, the programme rights we hold are limited to the UK and Ireland, meaning we are prohibited from allowing them to be viewed elsewhere. Channel 4 Streaming on Channel4.com uses geo blocking software that detects where your device is located when it connects to the internet. Even if you are from the UK or Ireland but aren't actually in the country when you access Channel 4 Streaming, the licence we hold for our programmes prohibits us from allowing you to view programmes. There are no current plans to extend the service to other countries.
We apologise for any disappointment this might cause.
Thank you for taking the time to contact us regarding streaming on Channel 4.
Kind regards,
David Bremner
Channel 4 Streaming Enquiries
P. s. That said - I have replied asking ' when / if are we going to be able to view the series again on YouTube '.
Nice article. There are certain differences in how nudity, and nudism/naturism, are viewed between regions, countries, religions, cultures, and any other discriminator you can think off. The US is definitely no utopia of acceptance and understanding. We have strengths and weaknesses like everywhere else. As any naturist, I’m saddened to see naturism presented in a bad light, used as a scapegoat, viewed as a sort of perversion, misunderstood, or restricted…anywhere in the world, let alone in my own backyard.
But at the same time, I fear that sometimes we lose the positives and focus on the negatives. It’s like looking at reviews on google or yelp. Are the reviews really a reflection of all, or just a reflection of who put in reviews? Because those are two different things. Are we seeing a national demonizing of naturism, or a vocal few, or perhaps a linking of disparate data points that are presented as a trend, when there is little actual correlation?
I’m not saying we should turn a blind eye or stick our heads in the sand. I do feel that naturism is falling farther out of favor with a segment of the US population, who if asked, would have always said it was weird, immoral, etc…. No one has asked them now, but lately they feel more empowered to share their lack of acceptance and inclusion with others, often times as a badge of honor. This, despite my fervent belief that a largely silent large group of Americans quite enjoy the idea of naturism and all it offers, often times secretly, or are largely ambivalent to it. Naturism could easily become a more public and visible target, a vehicle to gain publicity, an issue, a voice, power. But I do wonder if I’m hyper-focused on naturism and therefore potentially over stating the threat, seeking out the boogeyman where he may not exist.
In the meantime, I remain vigilant. Willing to offer an occasional voice, on a personal level, via a means and visibility that meets my needs, to help bolster naturisms ideals among those who just don’t understand.
Excellent article. I was pretty shocked that "Naked Education" was allowed to be shown on YouTube. They are pretty strict about nudity involving children.
Some of the replies are ' on the nail too ' . . . . .
This week, I too became aware that " Naked Education " was available on YouTube ; When I went to sleep on Wednesday evening, I was part way through watching episode 3. When I went to continue watching on Thursday morning - not available and had been removed . . . . . sadly.
What I had seen - excellent indeed, and a well constructed and informative programme.
I too have seen a number of the negative feedback / comments - and whilst these people are loud in their disgust of ' seeing and displaying naked bodies ', I am yet to see any comment or remark that all of the ' children ' admitted to having watched porn, and 1 of them did so at the age of 11.
Personally, I would much rather have children educated via this programme - rather than a porn show / channel / etc
Another real shame - we in New Zealand are unable to watch the programme On Demand as we are outside the UK. However, I have emailed Channel 4 to ascertain if there is any way in which it can be viewed from New Zealand.
While the "nudity in the changing rooms" debacle happened at a NSW surf club, the Aussie situation is by far the worst in the ultra-conservative Queensland state, where it is actually illegal for a person to allow their genital area be visible in any public space, or for a person in their own property to allow their genital area to be seen by anyone in a public space. That's what is behind the current problems at Alexandria Bay - traditionally "nudist" but police must act on any complaints of nudity there.
Overreaction seems to be the new normal with no middle ground or reasonable conversation to be found about a lot of subjects these days, especially non-sexual/social nudity.
Further to my comment on 5th May - I have received a reply from Channel 4 UK, as follows ;
" Thank you for your email in regards to streaming on Channel 4..
We appreciate you taking the time to contact us with your query. We must advise, as Channel 4 is a UK broadcaster, the programme rights we hold are limited to the UK and Ireland, meaning we are prohibited from allowing them to be viewed elsewhere. Channel 4 Streaming on Channel4.com uses geo blocking software that detects where your device is located when it connects to the internet. Even if you are from the UK or Ireland but aren't actually in the country when you access Channel 4 Streaming, the licence we hold for our programmes prohibits us from allowing you to view programmes. There are no current plans to extend the service to other countries.
We apologise for any disappointment this might cause.
Thank you for taking the time to contact us regarding streaming on Channel 4.
Kind regards,
David Bremner
Channel 4 Streaming Enquiries
P. s. That said - I have replied asking ' when / if are we going to be able to view the series again on YouTube '.
Nice article. There are certain differences in how nudity, and nudism/naturism, are viewed between regions, countries, religions, cultures, and any other discriminator you can think off. The US is definitely no utopia of acceptance and understanding. We have strengths and weaknesses like everywhere else. As any naturist, I’m saddened to see naturism presented in a bad light, used as a scapegoat, viewed as a sort of perversion, misunderstood, or restricted…anywhere in the world, let alone in my own backyard.
But at the same time, I fear that sometimes we lose the positives and focus on the negatives. It’s like looking at reviews on google or yelp. Are the reviews really a reflection of all, or just a reflection of who put in reviews? Because those are two different things. Are we seeing a national demonizing of naturism, or a vocal few, or perhaps a linking of disparate data points that are presented as a trend, when there is little actual correlation?
I’m not saying we should turn a blind eye or stick our heads in the sand. I do feel that naturism is falling farther out of favor with a segment of the US population, who if asked, would have always said it was weird, immoral, etc…. No one has asked them now, but lately they feel more empowered to share their lack of acceptance and inclusion with others, often times as a badge of honor. This, despite my fervent belief that a largely silent large group of Americans quite enjoy the idea of naturism and all it offers, often times secretly, or are largely ambivalent to it. Naturism could easily become a more public and visible target, a vehicle to gain publicity, an issue, a voice, power. But I do wonder if I’m hyper-focused on naturism and therefore potentially over stating the threat, seeking out the boogeyman where he may not exist.
In the meantime, I remain vigilant. Willing to offer an occasional voice, on a personal level, via a means and visibility that meets my needs, to help bolster naturisms ideals among those who just don’t understand.
I haven't seen "Naked Education" but YouTube isn't so much strict about Nudity involving children as they are hypocritical
Excellent article. I was pretty shocked that "Naked Education" was allowed to be shown on YouTube. They are pretty strict about nudity involving children.
Well written, and interesting too . . . .
Some of the replies are ' on the nail too ' . . . . .
This week, I too became aware that " Naked Education " was available on YouTube ; When I went to sleep on Wednesday evening, I was part way through watching episode 3. When I went to continue watching on Thursday morning - not available and had been removed . . . . . sadly.
What I had seen - excellent indeed, and a well constructed and informative programme.
I too have seen a number of the negative feedback / comments - and whilst these people are loud in their disgust of ' seeing and displaying naked bodies ', I am yet to see any comment or remark that all of the ' children ' admitted to having watched porn, and 1 of them did so at the age of 11.
Personally, I would much rather have children educated via this programme - rather than a porn show / channel / etc
Another real shame - we in New Zealand are unable to watch the programme On Demand as we are outside the UK. However, I have emailed Channel 4 to ascertain if there is any way in which it can be viewed from New Zealand.
Another well-considered piece, Steve.
While the "nudity in the changing rooms" debacle happened at a NSW surf club, the Aussie situation is by far the worst in the ultra-conservative Queensland state, where it is actually illegal for a person to allow their genital area be visible in any public space, or for a person in their own property to allow their genital area to be seen by anyone in a public space. That's what is behind the current problems at Alexandria Bay - traditionally "nudist" but police must act on any complaints of nudity there.
Overreaction seems to be the new normal with no middle ground or reasonable conversation to be found about a lot of subjects these days, especially non-sexual/social nudity.
T & K