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I would say Nick and Lins could be considered professional nudists.

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I was thinking of them when I wrote about the few people who have successfully monetised their naturism.

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The corporate “commercialization” of “LoveMaking” ( aka “sex” aka “porno” ) & Nudism ( vis-à-vis “soft-porn” ) is altogether deHumanizing in its fetishizing of Our Humanity & implicit trivialization & exploitation of Real Life Individuals into cartoonish caricatures of The Human Body & Our ProCreative/LoveMaking/Innate Joy organs & tools — unlike Life/Figure Artists Salons & Works of Art which elevate & demystify & Platonically celebrate Human Anatomy & Physiology ( for lasting aesthetic, psychological, intellectual, emotional, spiritual, healthful, philosophical, & historic aims beyond myopic & simple quickie carnal aspects ). The shameless corporatist msmSnews pushes propaganda for so many of its marionettist industries, it’s better to completely ignore it & let it die & fade into total irrelevance. Where they succeed in bait&switch tactics & in perpetuating shame & self-hatred, they benefit those powers&principalities seeking to profit on the backs of such indignity by providing “fashion” “make-up” & “medical solutions” ( butchers & drug pushers ) to purportedly help alleviate those symptoms they strategically engender.

The use of “amateur” is simply a slap/insult which could have been just as effectively replaced with “childiish” a “immature” Nudist/Person.

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Anyone can be professional & is applicable for any discipline. Profession & passion can be one in case of few people. But these people are exceptions. Mostly the profession & passion are different in case of the majority of the people. Actually it doesn't make any sense, even if called as amateur or professional nudist, as to be a naturist/nudist itself is a big news for the textile society.

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A professional nudist might be a paid official in a nudist organization. I suppose if one were to set up online monetized naturist oriented accounts, that would be a professional nudist.

In my salad days, I was both an artist's model and a "full monte" stripper. That could be a professional nudie but not a professional nudist.

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In my humble opinion ; It is a lifestyle - no more, no less !

However, the newspaper in question, has ' always ' had a policy and philosophy of ' never let the truth get in the way ' within their publication.

As to myself - having become a successful and sought after model for Life Drawing, having done a few photo shoots too, and having been approached to be an actor with a naked role in a New Zealand movie . . . . . . . I have ' never ' thought of myself as being a professional ; except for when it comes to how I approach each modelling session.

I'm not about to email the IRD and the Government though - I'm extremely happy with where I am at !

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It was difficult getting past the early arguments in this post. Nudists do not "take their clothes off" for pay or otherwise. Nudist simply prefer not to put clothes on. So, yes, this article was printed for attention, not accuracy.

But, you hit the nail by describing the number of nudists that have succeeded in finding a profit model for nudism. They, indeed should be classified and admired as professional nudists/naturists.

You, my friend, like me, are no amateur. I forward the proposition that we are "journeyman nudists" or naturists, if you prefer. We all have run into the amateurs in this community.

We know the ropes, but don't have the credentials necessary to be a professional.

Stay Safe,Stay Bare!

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I like and applaud your proposition that we are journeyman nudists.

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In that vein, I will lay claim to being a 'committed' but Apprentice Naturist/Nudist. Like life itself, still learning, but a long way to go.

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But reading the article why would they even mention him being a nudist is beyond me

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Click bait. Pure and simple!

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When I first saw the "amateur nudist" reference I thought that maybe spellcheck had managed to change "amateur naturalist" to "amateur naturist" and later an editor felt it wise to change "naturist" to the more-familiar "nudist." (p.s. I am a full-time nudist, but definitely not a professional nudist.)

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I think you are being charitable. I think it is more likely sensationalist headlines designed to hook readers in, or perhaps it is lazy journalism. It is also possible that no editor was involved, as seems to be a common development in online news content.

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I’ve several times come across headlines referring to “naked”, “nudist”, “naturist” etc and on reading the article struggled to find the reference in the text - invariably it’s far down in the piece (so its presence in the headline is unjustified) and more often than not its relevance is about as much as the one you mention. Proof positive, I always think, that the word is there purely as clickbait (and to my shame I’ve clicked ...)

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I think amateur in this context means “part time” and therefore a professional nudist would equate to being a “full time” nudist.

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Amateur and part-time have slightly different meanings, and I would argue that full-time does not equal professional. I guess it shows that words matter, and the importance of their correct usage in conveying a clear message.

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