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I believe it's largely to do with what situations the dress code of nakedness is appropriate for. Society has, through long tradition, set a dress code that's appropriate to every situation. And woe betide anyone that crosses the currently accepted standards. But those standards can change with time.

For example, when I first left school and started work as a technical trainee at Television NZ I was expected to come to work in a shirt and tie - even while working out of the public eye. Announcers and front people had to wear a suit and tie. By contrast, have a look at what front people can wear today - even when presenting the news! And techos and camera crews can now wear tidy casual clothes.

Back in the day, your best attire was reserved for church on Sundays. And, for women especially, church was even regarded by some as a fashion contest - your status and social standing determined by how expensive and "designer-labelled" was your outfit. In fact, it was this competitive nature of fashion displays that the Apostle Paul was talking about when teaching about modesty. The word "modesty" was to do with humility - not the requirement to cover up the body, as churches through the ages have come to believe. These days many churches are far more relaxed about what is appropriate dress.

But there remains many occasions when more formal dress is required - weddings, funerals, business meetings, and the requirement to wear a uniform of office: police, military, courts, etc. Nakedness aside, it would be social suicide for me to attend a wedding dressed in my farm clothes and gumboots! Again, different occasions call for a certain dress code.

Naturists need to realise that being naked is just one of many dress codes that are to be worn for any given occasion or situation. To expect western society to adopt nakedness as an acceptable dress code practically everywhere is stupidly naive - in this day and age, at least. I am usually naked around home and the farm. My neighbours often see me without clothes on and don't care - we all get on just fine. If I'm going to the beach I won't bother getting dressed to drive there. I've even stopped at an unattended self-serve petrol station to refuel on the way. I go hiking naked. I don't wear clothes on many bike rides, even on sections of roadway. I walk the forest trails without clothes and skinny dip in the rivers. I have not yet been to the Superette for milk and bread while naked - it's not yet an acceptable dress code for that. But, who knows? It may well be so at some stage in the future.

Yes, we need to be honest and open to other people about our comfort with nakedness in appropriate situations. And we need to stop acting as though nudity should be practised only in designated areas and clubs, behind high walls and hedgerows. But, like religion, we must also not bash the Naturist Bible at people! Society is elastic; you can gently push it, but be careful not to snap it!

My name is Andrew Cook. I don't subscribe to labels, but I reserve the right to sovereignty over my own body, to decide what pieces of cloth get hung on it as, when, and if I see fit.

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“I don’t think naturists need to change the mind of the public about nudity. They need to change their own mind about being seen naked in public.”

I don't believe the above is the crux of our acceptance problem. If we expect to ever gain acceptance of our liefstyle by society we first need to stop acting like it is something of which we are ashamed or embarrassed. Most of us are too timid to admit to all but our closest friends that we sometimes prefer to be nude. Until we are willing to admit that we're nudists, very few of us would dare to think about being seen nude in public.

“Many naturists are hyper-aware of how their behaviour might be seen by the general public. Our intent is not to offend, but to enjoy being without clothes when it is appropriate.”

The obvious problem with this approach is that we let those who oppose our lifestyle decide when and where nudity is appropriate. That's not the way it's supposed to be in a free society.

“The more I thought about it, the less I was convinced about it as a solution. The risk is that in the short term increased public nudity might backfire, and the small group of outraged citizens, those who usually have the loudest voice, would demand that councils and governments crackdown and ban the practice in public spaces.”

If you assume that the opposition will always defeat you, then you have essentially surrendered. Even if your initial efforts are unsuccessful, the effort to have nudity normalized will have begun. Currently we remain hidden and spend our time discussing the difference between the words nudist and naturist, instead of promoting our lifestyle. There is no public discussion of nudity.

“No one can argue about the freedom to be naked in one's own home, and on one's own property, but walking naked to the shops to get a bottle of milk might be a step too far for many.”

I can't comprehend anyone who practices nudism to some degree who would find it inappropriate in a public setting. If it's OK on your property or on a beach, why would it not be OK on the street?

“From my experience of swimming naked at several beaches, lakes, and waterfalls in NZ, people really don’t care. That is perhaps in the context of people seeing something that is not totally unexpected. Seeing someone skinny dipping in a river or at the beach takes the nudity and puts it into a non-threatening context. A naked person walking to the shops removes that context and may be perceived by some as threatening.”

Acquiescing to those few who think that a nude person is more of a threat than a clothed person makes no sense, and how many people like that are there. The vast majority won't care.

“For many, we may not yet be ready to walk to the supermarket naked, but we can at least be more honest about our lifestyle. Declaring ourselves as naturists when the opportunity arises rather than being secretive about our choices is a first step to coming out of the shadows and towards acceptance.”

“Being secretive about our enjoyment of being naked only serves to fortify the preconceptions and misunderstandings of broader society towards naturism and social nudity. We should be proud of our lifestyle choices and own them.”

The last two paragraphs are spot on. Until we accept ourselves we can't expect society to accept us. Keep up the good work Steve.

My name is Bill Bowser and I'm a nudist.

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